Dr. Eve Rosenhaft, University of Liverpool, United Kingdom

About our Guest: Dr. Eve Rosenhaft is a historian of modern Germany and a Professor of German Historical Studies at the University of Liverpool in the United Kingdom. She is also the Acting Director of the Eighteenth-Century Worlds Research Centre in the Department of Modern Languages and Cultures at the University of Liverpool. Dr. Rosenhaft is the author of Beating the Fascists? : The German Communists and Political Violence, 1929-1933 (1983), coauthor of Black Germany: The Making and Unmaking of a Diaspora Community 1884-1960 (2013), coeditor of Civilians and War in Europe 1618-1815 (2012), coauthor and coeditor of Africa in Europe: Studies in Transnational Practice in the Long Twentieth Century (2013), as well as author and coauthor of numerous articles published in several books and academic journals. 

Interviewer: Ana Fonseca

Overview: Dr. Rosenhaft discusses her article, "Blacks and Gypsies in Nazi Germany: The Limits of the 'Racial State,'" published in 2011 in the History Workshop Journal, which through an analysis of the experiences of Black and Gypsy peoples in the Holocaust, provides insights into the nuances encountered between official and everyday perceptions of difference, and the variety of experiences of the holocaust by the different groups that were persecuted during the Nazi regime.

How did the history of the German colonization of some parts of Africa encourage and/or put limits to the Nazi persecution of some Africans in Germany? What were some of the contradictions of the Nazi regime and how did they allow Afro-Germans spaces for negotiation? In the case of Gypsy peoples, were there some contradictions of the regime that they were able to exploit to negotiate their experiences of alienation during the Holocaust? Can we speak of a Nazi Holocaust of Gypsies the same way that we talk of the Nazi Holocaust of Jews? Dr. Rosenhaft addresses these key questions in this conversation.

RH- Non-Jewish Groups Persecuted by the Nazi.mp3

Holocaust, non-Jewish victims of the Nazi regime, Nazism, National Socialism, German colonization of some parts of Africa, Afro-Germans, German Gypsies, human agency.

"The core of the Black population in Germany in the twentieth century was made of the families of men who have traveled from the German colonies to Germany ... The impact that has on their experience in National Socialism is that their status as former colonial subjects provides a certain amount of protection for them because Germany had lost its colonies in 1919 as a result of losing the First World War, and the Nazis had some hope that they may be able to recover the colonies ... which meant ensuring that Africans had a favourable opinion of them"

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Audio: Rosenhaft, Eve."Non-Jewish Groups Persecuted by the Nazi." Interview by Ana Fonseca. Radio Heteroglossia, audio, September 2016 [March 2015]

Transcription: Rosenhaft, Eve."Non-Jewish Groups Persecuted by the Nazi." Interview by Ana Fonseca. Radio Heteroglossia, transcription, September 2016 [March 2015]

* This interview was originally published in an extended version by Radio Heteroglossia on March 2015. The original interview has been shortened for this publication to fit our new, condensed format launched on September 2016.



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